DOCUMENTARY FILMING AS AN ADVENTURE
An interview with the directors Enrique Sánchez Lansch and Thomas Grube
How did the notion of your film arise?
ENRIQUE SÁNCHEZ LANSCH: We had long been
considering how music may be presented and
made a vital experience in films. How can a work
like 'Le Sacre du Printemps' for instance be
combined with a story, be it fact or
fiction, in such a way that the story
is made more thrilling and emotional
and viewers have a greater access
to the music? In the early summer of
2002 we had the specific notion of
making a film about the new era of
the 'Berliner Philharmoniker'
under its new chief conductor,
Sir Simon Rattle. On doing the
research, we soon realised that
the orchestra's educational project
revealed much more than did
changes in the concert hall about
the direction in which this eminent
orchestra was moving under new
guidance. It revealed that this
cultural institution was keen to take
over social responsibility actively.
The choice of the Sacre-project was
then easy. With 250 participants it
was the biggest and, thanks to the
coming together of the dancers with
the 'Berliner Philharmoniker' in the
actual performance, the most
thrilling and visual project of the first
season.
THOMAS GRUBE: What captured our
imagination was the contrast. On
the one hand there was the work of
Royston Maldoom, who for the last
30 years has been travelling in a red
post-office van round the world and undertaking
dance-projects, mostly with street urchins, and on
the other hand there was the Berlin Philharmonic
Orchestra, this lighthouse of high culture - and all
this was happening between the Berlin boroughs
of Weissensee and Märkisches Viertel. We wished
to see what would happen when Stravinsky's violently
vigorous rite worked on street urchins ignorant
of both the 'Berliner Philharmoniker' and
classical music. We wished to experience for
ourselves what this process, which was also a
physical rapprochement, would lead to. We wished
to see onto what soil the seeds of this orchestra's
educational project would fall and what would
spring up. The Sacre-project was the first of its
kind in Berlin, so the outcome was
uncertain. This was the basis of our
film-notion.
ENRIQUE SÁNCHEZ LANSCH: We knew
before filming that we wished to
follow the preparations of the
youngsters on the one hand and the
preparations of the Philharmonic
Orchestra on the other. Among the
young participants we wished to
portray several in more detail, to
show what music can change. We
also knew that we wished to show
the stages of Sir Simon's life, to
show which personal experiences
can convince someone so fully of
the use of musical education and
communication. Then four weeks
before the start of the workshops
we got to know Royston Maldoom.
It soon became clear that with his
fascinating life and personality he
would play a similar role in the film
to Sir Simon.
THOMAS GRUBE: There was an
agreement that all participants
would work under the same
conditions. The 250 youngsters,
the choreographer and the
'Berliner Philharmoniker' would first
get to know one another in the
course of rehearsals. This agreement applied to us
too, which meant that we could interview no
essential protagonists in advance. The script itself
had to be developed as part of the process. The
filming, especially during the workshops, was
thrilling and involved all members of the team in
a three-month marathon. In a room with 50
youngsters during a dance-rehearsal, something is
always bound to happen.
Owing to the disparate demands of the situations,
we did the filming with two different formats,
which had hardly ever been combined up to that
time. The portraits of the youngsters and the takes
of the orchestral rehearsals were recorded on
HD (High Definition) 25p, which is presently the
clearest and most vivid digital format, whereas
during the workshops we used DVcam, which
allows more takes to be made and can be moved
around more easily and discretely in the midst
of dancers and choreographers.
At the end we had 200 hours of
raw materials, which we then
viewed, transcribed and sieved for
three months. Only after we had
familiarised ourselves with all the
material did we start cutting, which
then took us another half a year.
How did you choose your protagonists
from among the youngsters?
THOMAS GRUBE: From the start we
had attended all workshops. We
belonged to the team and were
viewed as such by the youngsters,
though it took some time to be fully
trusted. Before we portrayed the
particular protagonists, we visited
them and, if they wished, chatted
with their parents. After each day
of filming, the whole film-team
sat together and discussed our
experiences with the youngsters.
Gradually the narrative threads
took form through this continual
exchange.
ENRIQUE SÁNCHEZ LANSCH: It varied.
Martin, for instance, captured our attention
during the first rehearsal, and from then on we
continually paid attention to him. In the case of
younger dancers, it was seldom as easy. On
viewing takes at the end of filming, we realised that
many youngsters to whom dropped out, which had
happened especially often during the first two
weeks.
How did you get on with the professional projec
partners - Sir Simon Rattle, members of the
'Berliner Philharmoniker', and Royston Maldoom and
his team?
THOMAS GRUBE: The project could work only with
trust on all sides. There had to be faith in a project
without a shooting script, in a process with an
open end. The orchestra had to have faith in
Royston Maldoom, who was supposed to present
to 3000 spectators an artistically memorable
production. All members of the production - the
orchestra, the youngsters, Sir Simon Rattle and
Royston Maldoom - had to have faith in us as
filmmakers, as indeed we had to have faith in
ourselves. We had got to know the Philharmonic
Orchestra already during a Falstaff production with
Claudio Abbado, and we had heard a lot about
Royston. We met each other properly for the first
time only four weeks before the
project's start.
ENRIQUE SÁNCHEZ LANSCH: At any
rate the members of the
'Berliner Philharmoniker' had first to
be convinced that we should be
allowed to use cameras during all
orchestral rehearsals, so as to
record the process in full. This had
never been done before in the
history of the orchestra. A crucial
factor was the ample faith shown in
us by Sir Simon Rattle.
Again and again you leave the
rehearsal and workshop rooms to
wander through the city. What role
does Berlin play in your film?
ENRIQUE SÁNCHEZ LANSCH: We
deliberately showed the city from
its raw, rough, unsociable side.
Our protagonists have not grown up
in the postcard city but in sobering
surroundings. It is here that they go
to school or spend their spare time.
But the film shows beauty even
here, like the blossoming of the
Sacre-performance in the Arena, a former
bus-depot on industrial riverside land. Surprisingly
these images of the city make it in some sense
more universal. It might be London, Paris or
New York.
You spoke about the relationship between music and
film. How does RHYTHM IS IT! try to present music
in the film and make it an experience?
ENRIQUE SÁNCHEZ LANSCH: In the scenes of
orchestral rehearsal we were keen to show
music-makers in their everyday clothes and with
a feeling of the provisional in the work-situation.
At the same time we used the possibilities
of various perspectives and the quick rhythm
of cutting to decipher Stravinsky's music and
make it more accessible.
Sacre has a great range of scenes and emotions
which we tried to use as the film's cornerstones, so
the music is in counterpoint to documentary details
like key events in Sir Simon's life, Martin's
confrontation with the place of his childhood,
and Royston Maldoom's first experience of
dancing. I think that only music can really express
the emotional importance of this moment for the
further course of his life.
THOMAS GRUBE: Another important
thing is the recording technique.
The sound in the workshops was
recorded on four soundtracks, and
we also had 6.1 surround atmos in
all rooms. The takes with the 'Berliner Philharmoniker' and the
score had 5.1 surround quality, and
the film as a whole was mixed in
Dolby Digital. This is a very timeconsuming
but effective process,
since it makes the music in the
cinema sound like it does in the
concert hall and takes viewers into
the heart of events.
Is there a relationship between the
subject of Sacre and that of your film?
THOMAS GRUBE: On first thinking
about the use of this music, we
were rather worried, since the Sacre
is brusque and powerful. While
working on the film we came to
realise that this music reflects in
a certain sense the youngsters'
experience of life. Our society sacrifices
the education of children to
mainly financial ends and thus
imperils our future. Our film is
meant to be a statement about that.
ENRIQUE SÁNCHEZ LANSCH: ‘Sacre’ is about
education and the transmission of knowledge. It is
about helping the young generation to grow up by
initiating it into the secrets of communal life and
nature, through the practice of rites, of cult dances.
There is a clear relationship to the course of the
workshops and to the theme of our film. Moreover
the harsh environment, to which the youngsters
in Stravinsky's ballet are exposed and which is
expressed by the music, is related to the harsh
environment familiar to many youngsters in the
Sacre project.
THOMAS GRUBE: We have tried to find a film
language of our own. In doing so we were not
afraid to let genres mingle. I was concerned to
make the story emotionally appealing and for this
sake I often used the devices of feature films. Even
a documentary film can be an adventure, a
seduction and indeed even subjective. Yet I do like
the term 'musical'. Music is much more that what
is simply audible. I believe in the future of the
musical which not only shows
beautiful music but also tells
emotional tales - about music and
what it can mean to listeners.
In the case of documentaries a
critical detachment is expected to
what is documented. Is this not
incompatible to the intimacy which
you developed towards the Sacre
project?
ENRIQUE SÁNCHEZ LANSCH: Without
being close to the participants
we would not have been able to
share in this process. The necessary
detachment came between the
takes and the editing. The process
of choice and reflection before
the actual cutting took a long
time, due mainly to our need to
re-establish a critical distance.
The process of cutting was then
always a return to what we had
experienced in the course of events
with the various participants.
THOMAS GRUBE: I see my role as
being different to that of a critically
detached filmmaker. I want to be
involved in the situations and the
persons. I want to overcome the
distance and at times become a
friend and participant. Our film does not want to
be critical but to observe with open eyes, to make
this experience, this many facetted process of
preparing Sacre, apparent and appealing to cinema
viewers.
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